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Which raises the question what does the end of the universe look like?
Or is the universe flat? lol kek
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I believe the 'end of the universe' will either be 1 of 2 possible theories. The Big Crunch or Heat Death.

More possibilities: http://listverse.com/2014/04/11/10-theor...-will-end/

I've only been taught 2 in a breadth subject in uni. Either way, intelligent lifeforms need to get their shit together before any of this happens.
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Phoenix, stinger means what will be the boundary of the universe will look like.

If Universe has a boundary then it means that there is something surrounding it. (Basic things of Thermodynamics). Hence raising the question, what is there beyond the universe?

I have read about 4 possibilities of the end of the universe. (2 of which you mentioned and I can't remember the 2)
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A rather scifi fantasy alternative is that we live in a matrix-esque simulation, in which nothing outside our perceptions is really tangible- there would be no aliens because there is nowhere for them to actually be.

Think about it like a video game. A video game doesn't load it's entire contents at once. It loads it in sections. The problem of why there seems to be no observable intelligent life could easily be solved by saying "well, there are no planets outside of what we've physically observed with our eyes/tools anyways". The light from all the other galaxies and stars and what not could easily be thought of as a simple skybox- a flat, 2-dimensional image meant to simulate the idea that there is something beyond the chunk we've forced the system to compute by observing it. The catch is that the universe could have instructions for these other zones, but because we haven't observed them they simple haven't loaded. To put it simply, the ayy lmaos can't make first contact because they don't exist until we force the "game" to load them in.

As for why, well I would imagine that if this is a simulated universe, the amount of computational power necessary, even for our relatively small zone, would probably be some sort of Matrioshka brain. There is probably many different universes and worlds being run simultaneously if that's the case. You wouldn't want some infinitely expanding system to compute everything within it, obviously.
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Space weed must be great doe
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(18 Jul 2017, 03:38 PM)SmG Beasty Wrote: A rather scifi fantasy alternative is that we live in a matrix-esque simulation, in which nothing outside our perceptions is really tangible- there would be no aliens because there is nowhere for them to actually be.

Think about it like a video game. A video game doesn't load it's entire contents at once. It loads it in sections. The problem of why there seems to be no observable intelligent life could easily be solved by saying "well, there are no planets outside of what we've physically observed with our eyes/tools anyways". The light from all the other galaxies and stars and what not could easily be thought of as a simple skybox- a flat, 2-dimensional image meant to simulate the idea that there is something beyond the chunk we've forced the system to compute by observing it. The catch is that the universe could have instructions for these other zones, but because we haven't observed them they simple haven't loaded. To put it simply, the ayy lmaos can't make first contact because they don't exist until we force the "game" to load them in.

As for why, well I would imagine that if this is a simulated universe, the amount of computational power necessary, even for our relatively small zone, would probably be some sort of Matrioshka brain. There is probably many different universes and worlds being run simultaneously if that's the case. You wouldn't want some infinitely expanding system to compute everything within it, obviously.
I really like this idea.
Heat death aka Deep freeze theory here?
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Why do you say the universe is finite?
If it is not infinite, what's at the end? And that would then too Also mean there would be a centre.
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I highly doubt something is truly infinite. More likely that it is to such a large quantity that we have no real means to measure it. I dunno. I'm a biologist.
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I cant see why the universe would have a limit, it makes no sense, unless after a certain point its just no longer any stars or anything or something like a black hole
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Yeah, we can't really say if the universe is infinite, since we have no way of figuring it out. But, there most probably are other Aliens out there. Maybe memes will unite us with them xD
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