[Slingin]

Amd honestly has no incentive to enter the enthusiast market. Steam reports alone show cards above 980 performance and above account for only a mere fraction of sales. They were specifically targeting the mainstream market and offered a card that has excellent performance/ $ which many people can afford.  Btw sli 1080 isnt overkill if you have a high refresh rate 1440p/1080p monitor.

Got a 1440p 165hz g-sync Asus ROG Swift IPS model.  Running two 1080's would be a little extreme.  I would opt for 4K with two of them before I spent the money on a second 1080 for 1440p. The frame rates I am getting speak for themselves. I just personally think 4K is pointless on a screen that's not at least 40", and who wants to play on a screen that size.  I personally think 2k should be the future of PC gaming, but for some reason I'm assuming the race to 4K is all about the dollar signs.

[Ray88]

oh we have the same monitor. PG279Q?
A 1080 doesnt show the true potential of the rog swift. At max it runs AAA games at max settings around 80-90 fps, no where near the capped 165hz. Running 2 in sli would prob still yield a 80% performance boost to around 130-140 fps. So no, 2 isnt overkill if you want to use your monitor to its intended capabilities. Honestly I wouldnt give up high refresh rate for 4K until new monitors come out that support DP 1.4, 4k @ 120hz.

[SmG xBr4v3x]

You're just beating around the bush. Dx12 literally just came out last year and as time goes on, devs will continue to support the latest dirext x. True, it may take a few years and by then nvidia will release volta which supports dx12 better then pascal, but who is to know that just because only a few games support dx12 doesnt mean that later this year a lot more titles show up that does.

xfire/sli isnt even that bad compared to a few years back. Drivers get updated almost instantly to support dual gpu. Plus the fact remains that the best sli games scale at around 90%. If dx12 proves to be true nvidia will be donzo if amd can deliver a gpu that can xfire in the ballpark of 80-90% of the gtx 1080 performance while only costing 57%. No one in their right mind would spend $700 to achieve almost the same performance as a setup that costs less then $500.

When the nda lifts on the 29th of june and the RX480 does have the performance of a gtx 980/r9 fury while only costing 199, rip nvidia. I honestly hope amd does which would cause nvidia to drop their price(s) on their flagship cards.

Honestly, I'm gonna have fun laughing at whoever gets dual 480 and complains about bad or no crossfire support in games, and have to wait a year or more to enjoy the full power of both of their cards, while us who have 1080's get the enjoy the full power instantly, in everything, without having to hope or guess if dual gpu support are in games. 

It's worth the guarantee and upgradablity in the future to double that, instead of locking yourself to dual gpu and can only really upgrade by replacing both, and by that time, the cards would have dropped in price more, and may be harder to resell, versus an enthusiast grade card that will hold price better than an iPad Pro. lmao

[BlackHaze]

well I mean its nice to see AMD is putting out something worth getting and at decent price but at the same time I can also see
there being so many performance problems a long with pretty bad driver support. That's my only problem with AMD is if they took
the time to make drivers every month instead of every 4 to 5 months and work on there Optimization it would be on par with nvidia.
there drivers from what I heard are okay at best right now but still need a lot of work and after my 6 months of problem when I did
have a AMD card in it felt like AMD Hired me as a cheap ass Hooker and shit in my mouth and gave me only one dollar for the service.
Honestly after that horrible experience for 6 months I switched back to my nvidia card and I never had a problem since. I guess its all
about personal experience and AMD rubbed me the wrong way so I'm gonna stick with something that works well and gives me the best
experience I want just putting in my 2 cents xD.

[Slingin]

oh we have the same monitor. PG279Q?
A 1080 doesnt show the true potential of the rog swift. At max it runs AAA games at max settings around 80-90 fps, no where near the capped 165hz. Running 2 in sli would prob still yield a 80% performance boost to around 130-140 fps. So no, 2 isnt overkill if you want to use your monitor to its intended capabilities. Honestly I wouldnt give up high refresh rate for 4K until new monitors come out that support DP 1.4, 4k @ 120hz.

I get 90-110fps with the most demanding AAA with some SMAA while OC. Less demanding upwards of 150 all day.

[Ray88]

nah you gotta crank up everything, including anti-aliasing