[«SmG» Cloud]

Whatever the reason is posting private sub forum information publicly knowingly its highly against the rules rather than pming me or other admins doesn't seem like a great way to handle it either. It would have been better if he came to me and said what he had to say. He broke my trust like many others.

[Guest]

well if this is all true . than its drastic

[Beasty]

You do have a point, I agree it wasn't the best course of action. However, I think people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. When problems aren't dealt with properly it isn't abnormal to see good people doing bad things out of frustration.

A prime example, look at Conflict. He is doing a great job at handling the situation maturely given his past history, which is one of the few reasons he has earned alot of respect from me latley, if he wanted to he could have tried DOSing the forum, hacking it or whatever, but for the most part he is trying to discuss his aggrivations and intentions instead of acting out in rage. That doesn't mean he is bad for what he did, just that through talking about the problems and how to better deal with these problems he is on a much better path, and that deserves praise.

I think in the same retrospect you should talk to X. Leaking the information was wrong, and I understand that, but maybe things aren't irreversable, maybe if you talk things out with him it will amend that situation.

[Sorrow]

[WRONG] [helpme] [WRONG]

[«SmG» Cloud]

Cloud dont give us that...that's a whole lost of bs...X was here through thick and thin, and you know it

@Beasty , I think you can add Lich to that list also...he stood for that.

He was but when you break my trust what do you want me to do.

[BlackHaze]

Xorcizt is not really relevant. Either way he was the one that posted it publicly. That is why he was banned. Posting private sub forum information is certainly against the rules here even if it wasn't him that got the information. Yes it matters who told him that information but we don't know who it was so we cant take action.

Someone handed him the gun and he pulled the trigger.

X is been a good friend of mine for a while I don't know why he would do it but well things change.

I wonder why cloud maybe to make a point. I'm really beginning to question as to why I'm still part of this clan if you can't be honest half the time -_-.

[Beasty]

@Sorrow Lich didn't stand for multiclanning. The whole Lich fiasco happened a month prior, so not really.

Lich stood for his own opinions taking precedence over other's, and constantly reinforced this notion through blatently being manipulative.

Now, that may seem hypocritical since he is a mod at Smoke Gamers, his promotion was not of my input. However, while he still acts kind of whiny and annoying at times, it seems alot like he is trying to do better, and that is all I can ask of someone.

[«SmG» Cloud]

Xorcizt is not really relevant. Either way he was the one that posted it publicly. That is why he was banned. Posting private sub forum information is certainly against the rules here even if it wasn't him that got the information. Yes it matters who told him that information but we don't know who it was so we cant take action.

Someone handed him the gun and he pulled the trigger.

X is been a good friend of mine for a while I don't know why he would do it but well things change.

I wonder why cloud maybe to make a point. I'm really beginning to question as to why I'm still part of this clan if you can't be honest half the time -_-.

Leaking sub forum information is different than being honest.

[Beasty]

Maybe it is, but that doesn't make him a bad person. Making mistakes is easy, anybody can do it. Learning from those mistakes is what takes real character.

[«SmG» Cloud]

Maybe it is, but that doesn't make him a bad person. Making mistakes is easy, anybody can do it. Learning from those mistakes is what takes real character.

Making a mistake is easy yes. But he broke the rules and there are repercussions and he must deal with them.